Ventura County polygraph examiner & private investigator Kathryn Grogan received her '1000 Completed Exams' award at the PEOA Conference this past weekend.
Kathryn Grogan completed an 8-week State of California-approved polygraph academy in 2005, and she serves the public & businesses of the Los Angeles and Ventura counties. She provides private investigation & lie-detection services to businesses and to the public. Her contact information is www.KathrynGrogan.com and 818-384-6969.
Sunday, May 15, 2011
Sunday, May 8, 2011
How you can already know that a caller will never actually have a polygraph exam done?
Overall, PEOA members average 50-70% of calls & referrals that actually turn into paid exams.
Some of the other callers are just 'looky-loos', competitors, bluffers trying to scare their girlfriends into confessing, scammers, neurotics, and various other time-wasters.
Some examiners have previously said that they know instantly if a person will be engaging their services or not. So, we polled a group of successful examiners, asking them "How can you already know that a caller will never actually have a polygraph exam done?".
Their answers included:
"If they insist on an e-mail conversation only (no phone), it will not EVER go"
"Requiring you to listen to 30 seconds of rap music before their voice mail message comes on is a sign of no-work-here"
"Calls after midnight virtually never become an exam"
"If the caller asks 'Is there any charge for the polygraph exam?', it has never become an actual exam later"
"Telephone calls from 'blocked', 'unknown', or 'withheld' numbers for whatever reason almost never become an actual polygraph exam"
"When he says he wants to buy his own lie-detection equipment so he can test his girlfriend every week, you're wasting your time talking any further"
"Getting several calls from a person in a short period usually means too emotional now, and he/she will not show up for their appointment"
"When you call them back and get a message of either 'Voice Mail Full' or 'Voice Mail Not Set Up Yet', it's not going to happen"
"If trying to call them back for hours you get non-stop busy signals, you have a lonely talker who will not be paying for an exam"
"When you hear the caller being told word-for-word what to say to you by someone in the background, its just another control-freak trying to use polygraph as a free scare"
"When they want to discuss their entire relationship problems by phone, it is usually someone who needs a friend and wont be hiring you"
"When he says 'I want the graphs-- I will decide if she passed or not', say good-bye to the control-freak who is cheating on her"
"If they say 'Cost is no concern', don't count on it"
"(If they contact you by e-mail) The longer their e-mail, the lower the chance they will be hiring an examiner"
"When the caller insists that he be present during the test because he doesn't trust his girlfriend alone with an examiner, we have a control-freak that often is putting her through her 2nd or 3rd exam because he's not happy with hearing NDI"
"They will not be showing up if they want to schedule many weeks into the future"
"Should the caller insist that an examiner be either a woman or a very old man, good luck"
"If they say that they will keep their appointment with you depending on if their tax return or some other money arrives, it will be a no-show"
"A woman crying as she tells that she needs to have herself tested because her guy thinks she is cheating, with a baby or two screaming in the background during the call, will not turn into an exam"
Obviously not 100% for certain, but it was agreed that the above is solidly accurate.
Some of the other callers are just 'looky-loos', competitors, bluffers trying to scare their girlfriends into confessing, scammers, neurotics, and various other time-wasters.
Some examiners have previously said that they know instantly if a person will be engaging their services or not. So, we polled a group of successful examiners, asking them "How can you already know that a caller will never actually have a polygraph exam done?".
Their answers included:
"If they insist on an e-mail conversation only (no phone), it will not EVER go"
"Requiring you to listen to 30 seconds of rap music before their voice mail message comes on is a sign of no-work-here"
"Calls after midnight virtually never become an exam"
"If the caller asks 'Is there any charge for the polygraph exam?', it has never become an actual exam later"
"Telephone calls from 'blocked', 'unknown', or 'withheld' numbers for whatever reason almost never become an actual polygraph exam"
"When he says he wants to buy his own lie-detection equipment so he can test his girlfriend every week, you're wasting your time talking any further"
"Getting several calls from a person in a short period usually means too emotional now, and he/she will not show up for their appointment"
"When you call them back and get a message of either 'Voice Mail Full' or 'Voice Mail Not Set Up Yet', it's not going to happen"
"If trying to call them back for hours you get non-stop busy signals, you have a lonely talker who will not be paying for an exam"
"When you hear the caller being told word-for-word what to say to you by someone in the background, its just another control-freak trying to use polygraph as a free scare"
"When they want to discuss their entire relationship problems by phone, it is usually someone who needs a friend and wont be hiring you"
"When he says 'I want the graphs-- I will decide if she passed or not', say good-bye to the control-freak who is cheating on her"
"If they say 'Cost is no concern', don't count on it"
"(If they contact you by e-mail) The longer their e-mail, the lower the chance they will be hiring an examiner"
"When the caller insists that he be present during the test because he doesn't trust his girlfriend alone with an examiner, we have a control-freak that often is putting her through her 2nd or 3rd exam because he's not happy with hearing NDI"
"They will not be showing up if they want to schedule many weeks into the future"
"Should the caller insist that an examiner be either a woman or a very old man, good luck"
"If they say that they will keep their appointment with you depending on if their tax return or some other money arrives, it will be a no-show"
"A woman crying as she tells that she needs to have herself tested because her guy thinks she is cheating, with a baby or two screaming in the background during the call, will not turn into an exam"
Obviously not 100% for certain, but it was agreed that the above is solidly accurate.
Sunday, May 1, 2011
RailRoad Police seeking bids on new-hire applicant testing
RailRoad Police seeking bids on new-hire applicant testing
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Many polygraphers in California and New York also take the private investigator license tests
Many polygraphers in California and New York also take the private investigator license tests and then set up related concurrent businesses.
Although not as high per hour income as lie-detection produces, private investigation is a good companion business to polygraph, and it is usually a steady income stream.
But passing the test is quite a chore. California & New York private investigator license examination test study material and sample test questions from www.PIcontinuingeducation.com can fill in the blanks of the information needed to pass.
Note: many people looking for lie-detection help first contact a private investigator, assuming that is who offers polygraph to the public!
Although not as high per hour income as lie-detection produces, private investigation is a good companion business to polygraph, and it is usually a steady income stream.
But passing the test is quite a chore. California & New York private investigator license examination test study material and sample test questions from www.PIcontinuingeducation.com can fill in the blanks of the information needed to pass.
Note: many people looking for lie-detection help first contact a private investigator, assuming that is who offers polygraph to the public!
Thursday, April 28, 2011
2 unusual exam requests this week
1. Examinee wants to prove he had interaction with a UFO. California
2. Examinee wants to prove he saw rapper Tupac be killed (he adds that Tupac now speaks to him). New York
2. Examinee wants to prove he saw rapper Tupac be killed (he adds that Tupac now speaks to him). New York
Analog instrument needed for 1 week as a prop by a NYC film crew
Analog instrument needed for 1 week as a prop by a NYC film crew
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Wednesday, April 20, 2011
Law enforcement agency near Tucson AZ seeking a new vendor of new-hire applicant polygraph exams
Law enforcement agency near Tucson AZ seeking a new vendor of new-hire applicant polygraph exams
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Tuesday, April 12, 2011
A used Lafayette LX-4000 needed for purchase in Philadelphia area
A used Lafayette LX-4000 needed for purchase in Philadelphia area
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Sunday, April 10, 2011
'Nancy Grace: Swift Justice' TV show still seeking minority examiners for on-air examinations
'Nancy Grace: Swift Justice' TV show still seeking minority examiners for on-air examinations
Examiners who are Female, Black, Latin, or Indian are encouraged to apply.
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Examiners who are Female, Black, Latin, or Indian are encouraged to apply.
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Friday, April 8, 2011
An incarcerated testing is needed at the State Prison in Newport Vermont
An incarcerated testing is needed at the State Prison in Newport Vermont
Client is attorney
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Client is attorney
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The 5 most common complaints about the written reports of polygraph examiners
The 5 most common complaints about the written reports of polygraph examiners, as per interviews with hundreds of persons who were clients of examiners:
1. Was a problem to get the promised written report, took many calls
2. Written report was mostly about the examiner himself
3. Written report that arrived was only a paragraph long-- with a surprise option to get a 'longer report' for another $100
4. Written report was in all capital letters, making it very hard to read
5. Written report was poorly written, with misspellings
The written report is of great importance, because it stands in the examiner's place when presented to the court or to the accusing party. If it looks like it was written by a beginner, then it doesn't matter how good the examiner was or how well the examinee passed the test-- there will be no confidence given to the exam.
'There are many good examiners who write reports like kindergarteners, in part because many polygraph schools do not teach about reports. They assume that your initial employer will teach you report writing', tells John Grogan, a polygraph examiner was has tested more than 6000 persons and reviews sample reports as part of the membership process of Polygraph Examiners Of America (www.peoa.US). 'If the written report is critical to the examinee, then he/she should ask to see a sample report before choosing an examiner. Don't believe it if an examiner refuses, telling you that a sample report is 'confidential'; the examiner can redact any private information from a past report before showing it to you'.
1. Was a problem to get the promised written report, took many calls
2. Written report was mostly about the examiner himself
3. Written report that arrived was only a paragraph long-- with a surprise option to get a 'longer report' for another $100
4. Written report was in all capital letters, making it very hard to read
5. Written report was poorly written, with misspellings
The written report is of great importance, because it stands in the examiner's place when presented to the court or to the accusing party. If it looks like it was written by a beginner, then it doesn't matter how good the examiner was or how well the examinee passed the test-- there will be no confidence given to the exam.
'There are many good examiners who write reports like kindergarteners, in part because many polygraph schools do not teach about reports. They assume that your initial employer will teach you report writing', tells John Grogan, a polygraph examiner was has tested more than 6000 persons and reviews sample reports as part of the membership process of Polygraph Examiners Of America (www.peoa.US). 'If the written report is critical to the examinee, then he/she should ask to see a sample report before choosing an examiner. Don't believe it if an examiner refuses, telling you that a sample report is 'confidential'; the examiner can redact any private information from a past report before showing it to you'.
12 persons need testing in Commerce City Colorado
12 persons need testing in Commerce City Colorado
Missing items
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Missing items
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Monday, April 4, 2011
Chatanooga TN television documentary needs to film a polygraph examination
Chatanooga TN television documentary needs to film a polygraph examination
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Tuesday, March 29, 2011
Tucson Arizona radio station seeks to air a live polygraph examination
Tucson Arizona radio station seeks to air a live polygraph examination
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Wednesday, March 23, 2011
Not like the 'Friends' on the TV show . . .
Montreal Canada exams needed
Private home, a lot of money missing, 3 friends are the only possible suspects
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Private home, a lot of money missing, 3 friends are the only possible suspects
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A nationwide TV legal show needs exams filmed in Los Angeles
A nationwide TV legal show needs exams filmed in Los Angeles
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Monday, March 21, 2011
Boston MA radio show seeks on-air segment on lie-detection
Boston MA radio show seeks on-air segment on lie-detection, including a live polygraph examination
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Tuesday, March 15, 2011
New York City TV production needs to buy or use an analog instrument
New York City TV production needs to buy or use an analog instrument
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Grandma comes home from a hosptal stay, finds her life-savings is missing
Grandma comes home from a hosptal stay, finds her life-savings is missing
Boston MA
7 family members need testing
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Boston MA
7 family members need testing
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Fishing tournament in Perry Florida needs lie-detection services
Fishing tournament in Perry Florida needs lie-detection services
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